Ian used to write a lot and used to write down lyric ideas and he’d work on them. So there’s quite a lot of handwritten material.
But this book came about, really, because Deborah has manuscripts of about 36 or 37 songs and Ian’s notebooks and writings – there there are about three notebooks of lyrics and also about another 120 or 130 loose pages, as I remember. JS: Joy Division only recorded about 45 songs, and the song lyrics have been printed elsewhere. And I was also involved with Deborah on her book, ‘Touching From A Distance’.ĪM: How much material were you working with, and how much is included in the book? I was involved in the ‘Heart & Soul’ boxset, and in the singles boxset, and also in the Joy Division. JS: I was asked to get involved by Lee Braxton at Fabers because I saw Joy Division a lot back in the day and knew the Factory people, and have done a lot of projects with Joy Division over the last fifteen years. On 2 Oct, Faber & Faber will publish ‘So This Is Permanence’, a collection of Curtis’s lyrics and previously unpublished notebooks.Įdited by writer Jon Savage and Curtis’s wife Deborah, the book shows the development of the vocalist’s lyrics from initial ideas to their final recorded versions.Īhead of the book’s publication, CMU’s Andy Malt caught up with Savage to discuss the project, his history with Joy Division and why there continues to be so much interest in this band.ĪM: How did you become involved in this project? Nearly 35 years since the death of Joy Division frontman Ian Curtis in 1980, the band and their music continue to interest and influence music fans across generations. Business Interviews Media Q&A: Jon Savage on So This Is Permanence By Andy Malt | Published on Monday 1 September 2014
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